I'd be willing to admit I was wrong, if the evidence supported it. I do comment on peoples submissions you are right, but that was a long time ago and I had thought it removed by now. They usually are. At any rate, the study quoted was flawed fundementally, as are any you could show me on the issue. Acutally, I'm pretty sure that is the ONLY peer reviewed one on the subject, but that isn't saying much considering it's sample group was a prison group of sex offenders. You are using it out of context in a way even the original author would not intend.

The only other works we have to go off of are the works of Hani Miletski, and a few other minor ones, all of whom have reached very different conclusions. They are hardly peer reviewed though and I won't use them in a debate. Rather, I would debate it from a moral and logical standpoint if you're up for it.

However, this could just as easily apply to you:

"No one likes to think that they're beliefs are wrong, much less admit it."

and if that's the case, we are both wasting our time and I'd rather just agree to disagree.

Just remember one thing, you'll never truly be "zoo free." If there's one thing we're good at, it's surviving. We were here 1000 years ago, we're how now, and we'll be here as long as man kind persists. You can either learn to live with us, or hate us. Your choice, but I'd encourage you to have your reasons either way, as we aren't going anywhere.

If your up for debate, I will shoot off the following: Pedophilia is not comparable because the reason we outlaw sex with children comes down to consequences. Children don't understand the consequences. Pregancy, STDs, these are very adult issues we don't want to expose our children to (that and the parental approval thing is finnicky). These don't exist in bestiality, and thus the risks are gone, as are the reasons for outlawing it.

It should be noted that pedophilia is not considered a psychologically harmful act in and of itself by the APA, it has consistently taken the stance that it is immoral for the above mentioned reasons, but hardly MENTALLY harmful to the child in it's basic form. I challenge you to find an article from them stating otherwise. That leaves your arguments with little leg to stand on (as well as the pedophilia rights movement, which can not be compared).

And though I hate this arguement, it must be said: We don't eat children. Still, I hate that argument, but you don't see people going after meat eaters with the same viciousness.

So I see little argument left from where I stand, unless of course you'd care to correct me. I'm more than game.

I hope you don't mind, but I'm also going to post this reply in my profile. If you want to follow up, you can do so there.

Actually, the whole "only animal that has sex for fun is the dolphin" is a huge wives tale. Anyone who studies mamallian brain and architecture will tell you humans and animals are virtually identical in that regard, right down the to clitoris, an organ shared by all placental females who's sole purpose is pleasure. That is a scientific fact, feel free to google it if you don't believe me. So again, your hatred is baseless. And harm? Non-existant if proper care and consent is considered. I practice that.

And I won't come near your dogs. I respect societies definition of animal "property" rights (as sickening as I find that term). So you needn't worry. Not like you'd know I was a zoophile by looking at me anyhow, so I needn't worry either.

Peace.